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In this episode of The Last Church Podcast, Mark and Fred argue that evangelical teaching has often mis-timed the rapture, and that Scripture points to a pre-wrath rapture—after intense tribulation/persecution that purifies the “bride” into a glorious church (Ephesians 5:27), but before God’s wrath is poured out. Walking through Revelation 1–9, they frame the first seals as escalating tribulation (deception, war, famine, death, martyrdom), then identify the sixth/seventh seal transition as the start of wrath, with believers gathered before God’s throne.
Most Recent Episode
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In this episode of The Last Church Podcast, Mark and Fred argue that evangelical teaching has often mis-timed the rapture, and that Scripture points to a pre-wrath rapture—after intense tribulation/persecution that purifies the “bride” into a glorious church (Ephesians 5:27), but before God’s wrath is poured out. Walking through Revelation 1–9, they frame the first seals as escalating tribulation (deception, war, famine, death, martyrdom), then identify the sixth/seventh seal transition as the start of wrath, with believers gathered before God’s throne.
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#7 From the Tabernacle to the Glorious Church
Mark and Fred discuss how the tabernacle in the wilderness and the first temple were built according to God’s instructions and empowered by the Holy Spirit, resulting in God’s manifest presence. They contrast this with later temple structures that reflected increasing human control and compromise. Drawing from these biblical patterns, they explain that the future “glorious church” will not be built by human methods but by the Holy Spirit through the gifts and callings given to believers, following the instructions found in the New Testament.

#6 Birth Pains, Tribulations, and Rapture
Mark and Fred connect the “birth pains” Jesus describes in the Olivet Discourse (Matthew 24; Luke 21) to the first six seals of Revelation, arguing this tribulation period precedes a pre-wrath rapture. They stress deception, war, famine, persecution, and apostasy as refining trials that expose true faith and mature the church. Using Israel’s hardship in Exodus and Jeremiah 30, they say God “cuts the cord” with worldly security so the Bride is prepared and a remnant endures.

#5 The Six Seal Tribulation, Rapture, and Wrath
In this episode of The Last Church Podcast, Mark and Fred argue that evangelical teaching has often mis-timed the rapture, and that Scripture points to a pre-wrath rapture—after intense tribulation/persecution that purifies the “bride” into a glorious church (Ephesians 5:27), but before God’s wrath is poured out. Walking through Revelation 1–9, they frame the first seals as escalating tribulation (deception, war, famine, death, martyrdom), then identify the sixth/seventh seal transition as the start of wrath, with believers gathered before God’s throne.

#1 Intro to the Doctrine of The Glorious Church (Ephesians 5:27)
Mark and Fred introduce their podcast’s purpose: to build up believers through Scripture and explain Mark’s long-taught view of the “glorious church” in Ephesians 5:27. They clarify their teaching differs from other “glorious church” ideas and isn’t about a future glorified state, but a mature, purified end-times church on this side of heaven. Using Ephesians 4:13, they describe God forming a unified, complete body through Christ’s gifts, despite current immaturity and confusion.

#5 The Six Seal Tribulation, Rapture, and Wrath
In this episode of The Last Church Podcast, Mark and Fred argue that evangelical teaching has often mis-timed the rapture, and that Scripture points to a pre-wrath rapture—after intense tribulation/persecution that purifies the “bride” into a glorious church (Ephesians 5:27), but before God’s wrath is poured out. Walking through Revelation 1–9, they frame the first seals as escalating tribulation (deception, war, famine, death, martyrdom), then identify the sixth/seventh seal transition as the start of wrath, with believers gathered before God’s throne.
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#1 Intro to the Doctrine of The Glorious Church (Ephesians 5:27)
Mark and Fred introduce their podcast’s purpose: to build up believers through Scripture and explain Mark’s long-taught view of the “glorious church” in Ephesians 5:27. They clarify their teaching differs from other “glorious church” ideas and isn’t about a future glorified state, but a mature, purified end-times church on this side of heaven. Using Ephesians 4:13, they describe God forming a unified, complete body through Christ’s gifts, despite current immaturity and confusion.